Yeah... Right... The "western colonialists" control the Arab oil rich country's rulers but they couldn't stop them from enacting the oil embargo in 1973 nor could they control the oil price hikes?!...
You're seeking conspiracies where none exist...
In fact, going by your logic, as Israel (allegedly) controls the west which (allegedly) controls the Arab oil rich countries the logical thing would be for Israel to have them sign a peace treaty with Israel...
As for Saddam Hussein, you're forgetting that he DID pay for suicide bombers (a.k.a. Shahids, Martyrs)... However, are you trying to tell me that Saddam Hussein ruled by popular Iraqi consent?!... Do you really think he should have remained in power?!...
BTW, your links to the full monastery story leads to the wrong address!...
"The "western colonialists" control the Arab oil rich country's rulers but they couldn't stop them from enacting the oil embargo in 1973 nor could they control the oil price hikes?!..."
... and whose interest were the oil price hikes in anyhow?
Right. The western oil majors and New York and London financiers.
"the logical thing would be for Israel to have them sign a peace treaty with Israel..."
Qatar anyone?
So... you think that Saddam Hussein could have lobbied the US congress for war on Israel. That's rich.
It's quite clear in who's interest the oil price hikes were... Just look at the extravagant expenditures and sovereign funds of the oil rich states...
Qatar has a peace agreement with Israel?!... That's news to me...
As for Saddam Hussein, I never claimed he could have lobbied the US Congress for anything... But he certainly could have financed lobbying on behalf of the Palestinians...
The problem there is that rhetoric aside, the Arab states, even the oil rich ones, barely donate anything for their Palestinian brethren...
BTW, your links to the full monastery story STILL leads to the wrong address!...
Yes, the sovereign funds are all in London and New York.
How many billions are robbed each year?
How did that just work out for Libya?
Within seven years of the oil price hikes every third world nation that was a net importer of oil faced a credit crisis from having borrowed from Western banks to pay their oil bills.
A portion of some of the sovereign funds are in London and NY... The rest aren't... You claim that billions were robbed?!... Where's the proof?!...
As for Libya, are you claiming that the popular uprisings in the Arab countries weren't popular?!... Please make up your mind... If Qadaffi was a US/UK puppet why would they remove him?!...
As for 3rd world nations, oil was just one of the expenses... And, the oil gets paid for by the consumers... UNLESS it's subsidized... Subsidizing anything is stupid!...
As for Qatar, there's no peace agreement... Not even full diplomatic relations... And you know it... But you're desperate to prove your (non existent) point...
Vast sums of petrodollars went straight to London and New York, the evidence of skimming and outright fraud is copious.
Outside of this though, the new paradigm of supposedly precious oil brought price levels up enough to make vast amounts of US and North Sea oil, which had cost more to produce than the previous price justified, exploitable.
But the windfall extended to all of big oil's enormous production which suddenly became more valuable.
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As for the rearranging of the neocolonial rulers, imperialists have always slapped their puppets around from time to time.
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The third world debt crisis of 30+ years ago was almost entirely caused by the run up in oil costs. This was without subsidies, just a national trade imbalance impacting central banks.
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Qatar has normalized relations with Israel including trade, diplomatic relations, academic, sporting and cultural relations etc... This is a huge coup for the illegal usurper entity.
The Arab oil rich countries could outspend Israel any day... One wonders why they haven't done so...
ReplyDeleteMy conclusion is that things aren't as they're presented...
... and what would happen to the Arab rulers that were installed by Western colonialists if they were to attempt such a challenge?
ReplyDeleteHow far would Saddam Hussein have gotten if he had taken such action?
Yeah... Right... The "western colonialists" control the Arab oil rich country's rulers but they couldn't stop them from enacting the oil embargo in 1973 nor could they control the oil price hikes?!...
ReplyDeleteYou're seeking conspiracies where none exist...
In fact, going by your logic, as Israel (allegedly) controls the west which (allegedly) controls the Arab oil rich countries the logical thing would be for Israel to have them sign a peace treaty with Israel...
As for Saddam Hussein, you're forgetting that he DID pay for suicide bombers (a.k.a. Shahids, Martyrs)... However, are you trying to tell me that Saddam Hussein ruled by popular Iraqi consent?!... Do you really think he should have remained in power?!...
BTW, your links to the full monastery story leads to the wrong address!...
"The "western colonialists" control the Arab oil rich country's rulers but they couldn't stop them from enacting the oil embargo in 1973 nor could they control the oil price hikes?!..."
ReplyDelete... and whose interest were the oil price hikes in anyhow?
Right. The western oil majors and New York and London financiers.
"the logical thing would be for Israel to have them sign a peace treaty with Israel..."
Qatar anyone?
So... you think that Saddam Hussein could have lobbied the US congress for war on Israel. That's rich.
It's quite clear in who's interest the oil price hikes were... Just look at the extravagant expenditures and sovereign funds of the oil rich states...
ReplyDeleteQatar has a peace agreement with Israel?!... That's news to me...
As for Saddam Hussein, I never claimed he could have lobbied the US Congress for anything... But he certainly could have financed lobbying on behalf of the Palestinians...
The problem there is that rhetoric aside, the Arab states, even the oil rich ones, barely donate anything for their Palestinian brethren...
BTW, your links to the full monastery story STILL leads to the wrong address!...
Yes, the sovereign funds are all in London and New York.
ReplyDeleteHow many billions are robbed each year?
How did that just work out for Libya?
Within seven years of the oil price hikes every third world nation that was a net importer of oil faced a credit crisis from having borrowed from Western banks to pay their oil bills.
Yes, Qatar has normalized relations with Israel.
A portion of some of the sovereign funds are in London and NY... The rest aren't... You claim that billions were robbed?!... Where's the proof?!...
ReplyDeleteAs for Libya, are you claiming that the popular uprisings in the Arab countries weren't popular?!... Please make up your mind... If Qadaffi was a US/UK puppet why would they remove him?!...
As for 3rd world nations, oil was just one of the expenses... And, the oil gets paid for by the consumers... UNLESS it's subsidized... Subsidizing anything is stupid!...
As for Qatar, there's no peace agreement... Not even full diplomatic relations... And you know it... But you're desperate to prove your (non existent) point...
Vast sums of petrodollars went straight to London and New York, the evidence of skimming and outright fraud is copious.
ReplyDeleteOutside of this though, the new paradigm of supposedly precious oil brought price levels up enough to make vast amounts of US and North Sea oil, which had cost more to produce than the previous price justified, exploitable.
But the windfall extended to all of big oil's enormous production which suddenly became more valuable.
~~~
As for the rearranging of the neocolonial rulers, imperialists have always slapped their puppets around from time to time.
~~~
The third world debt crisis of 30+ years ago was almost entirely caused by the run up in oil costs. This was without subsidies, just a national trade imbalance impacting central banks.
~~~
Qatar has normalized relations with Israel including trade, diplomatic relations, academic, sporting and cultural relations etc... This is a huge coup for the illegal usurper entity.